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 Posted - 09/23/2007 : 13:23:36
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Dear Members,
Research has shown that feeling victimized is often a problem in both schizophrenia and depression.
Feeling Victimized is defined as:
Seldom expresses praise or gratitude; feels exploited or victimized. Could you please tell our community if feeling victimized was part of your schizophrenia, and what made this better or worse.
Your comments will greatly help others facing these same problems.
Phil Long M.D.
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| firebird
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Posted - 09/23/2007 : 16:17:27
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| I try to let people know that I value them and I try to show respect to everyone. It would hurt me to think people may find me ungrateful or taking them for granted. |
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| peewee
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Posted - 09/27/2007 : 05:47:11
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Before I developed schizophrenia I was grateful for life, I was proud that I accomplished financial independance at age 22 by having a good paying job, a beautifully decorated flat, and was on my way to buying myself a house and a car. I had good morals and my intention was to build up materially at a young age so that when I'm in my 30's and I get married I could have something to show for to my future husband instead of partying and going on holidays. I was a hard worker. Then I developed schizophrenia and I lost all of my financial independance over time and all my dreams were shattered. I was very depressed and could not come to terms with this loss. I also lost friendships. I lost my dignity. I even said to the pastor's wife at one cell meeting that I was losing everything before my very eyes and the more I try and try to fight what I am going through - I just keep losing everything. Of course I lost my mind as well. I became incredibly envious of other people and still to this day I am angry because I shouldn't have suffered so much loss, I did nothing wrong to deserve it. And my mom and husband often try and tell me to be grateful for the things I do have, but I'm stubborn, I want to regain what I lost and it's not that I'm not grateful for what I have but if they understood what I went through mentally, physically and emotionally they would understand my pain and anger for losing so much. However, the Lord did keep me positive because in prophetic wording the Lord spoke about me regaining but my life is going in a new direction and that is what I'm grateful for, it has led me to gain a wonderful husband, a relationship with my mother again, a beautiful child, a home, furniture, a job that I'm happy in, my salary is increasing (slowly but surely - but it's increasing) so it is truly happening for me. I need to let go of the past and break free from that mentality of negativity but it's hard work. |
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| jane_m
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Posted - 02/08/2008 : 15:13:10
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| I now live with my parents again at age 52. I haven't lived with them since I was 21. I have had a interesting career, expensive clothes, houses and cars for over twenty years and that is more than most people have had. I presently have a new bedroom set, nice clothing, medical care, a laptop computer and a cell phone. I clean my parents house, wash towels and go to the store almost every day so I can get out just to be with people. They give me money and a list. I got my driver's license back. I didn't have one for ten years. I feel independent with my SSI, food stamps and Medicaid. Like I can take care of myself. But I still feel like a victim. I take all criticism hard. |
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| slackagon
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Posted - 02/20/2008 : 22:29:34
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I still get that feeling when I go out in public, that people are stairing at me, or 'thinking' at me (because I can 'hear' them stairing or thinking at me; hard to say why), and when that happens, my chest starts to tighten up and I get all panicky, and think, "why me?", or just "AARGGG". It's like the Cathy cartoon in the Sunday Paper, or this cartoon called "Migraine Boy" that I would laugh and laugh at because it seemed just like me.
But I'm trying to forgive people more, and forgive myself. It's the forgiving part that has mellowed me out some, but I still forget to forgive enough, like when I was ripped off recently, and I just started to almost cry, and then I became angry and accusatory.
But I don't feel angry at passing cars that honk much anymore, and it's not because I'm on more medicine. It's because noise seems more natural now that I've forgiven 'it', and let myself be myself.
If I had not forgiven myself for being bitter, dumb and angry, I would have been a lot more bitter, dumb, and angry, not that I'm not now and then still.
It's not an excuse, being lame, and then saying you forgive yourself, because it changes yourself in ways that help you improve.
Lately I've been backsliding. I have to remember that forgiveness is the key. It's not really hokey, like I thought it was before.
Things people do naturally, that don't make any other person feel victimized. Why be afraid of that? Dunno, it just is. |
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| AudreyDisbury
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Posted - 08/27/2008 : 04:41:38
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Education is the key.
I dont care how much legislature they pass, a good education will get you farther than getting up and protesting.
For instance, i have a 4 year degree in psychology, ironically i'll never use this as i'm a firefighter, but being a firefighter requires college education, so i went ahead with it.
And remember, never take the victim attitude.
Your never a victim unless you let yourself be one.
For instance, i was once mugged on the street by 4 dudes at knifepoint, they took my wallet, which luckily had nothing but the cash i had on me, which was about 120$.
Instead of whining about it, i took boxing and martial art, as well as technical self defense courses.
That way it wont happen again.
Life is all about attitude.
http://www.ovariancystsnomore.com/
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| firebird
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Posted - 08/27/2008 : 05:46:20
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| Well done Audrey. Thats a good post. You are wise. |
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| hercules21
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Posted - 04/17/2009 : 22:19:49
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I was a victim of SZ and am a victim of SZ.
No one knows how torturous it can be to have a mental illness except for other people who have had mental illnesses. No one wants to know about it or give you sympathy. My dad while I was suffering and just starting my breakdown refused to be sympathetic towards me - and said we have all suffered and you will suffer worse in your life. Which was most uncaring he can be a jerk sometimes. Strangely it turned out to be prophetic as my psychosis did deepen and then of course I had a long relapse as well.
I didn't grow up being a victim. And being a victim wasn't part of my psychosis. Although I am glad that I was not an aggressive person during my psychosis or I could have ended up standing up for myself and embarrassing myself in the middle of a lecture hall when I thought people including the professor were making jokes about me.
But right now I feel like a victim - like many others on this site I have lost a lot and I will never get it back. Some days I dream of getting it back. Somedays I think if I have faith I will get some of it back but in a different form. But other days I think I will always be a victim.
I don't know if I understand the premise for this thread. Are we saying that being a victim is a precursor and a causation factor for SZ or are we saying that a psychosis includes making us behave like a victim - or are we just asking do you feel like a victim. I apologise if I have mis answered this question. I think I have tried to cover all bases.
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| saru_as
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Posted - 09/03/2009 : 00:50:43
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quote:
Originally posted by hercules21
I was a victim of SZ and am a victim of SZ.
No one knows how torturous it can be to have a mental illness except for other people who have had mental illnesses. No one wants to know about it or give you sympathy. My dad while I was suffering and just starting my breakdown refused to be sympathetic towards me - and said we have all suffered and you will suffer worse in your life. Which was most uncaring he can be a jerk sometimes. Strangely it turned out to be prophetic as my psychosis did deepen and then of course I had a long relapse as well.
I didn't grow up being a victim. And being a victim wasn't part of my psychosis. Although I am glad that I was not an aggressive person during my psychosis or I could have ended up standing up for myself and embarrassing myself in the middle of a lecture hall when I thought people including the professor were making jokes about me.
But right now I feel like a victim - like many others on this site I have lost a lot and I will never get it back. Some days I dream of getting it back. Somedays I think if I have faith I will get some of it back but in a different form. But other days I think I will always be a victim.
I don't know if I understand the premise for this thread. Are we saying that being a victim is a precursor and a causation factor for SZ or are we saying that a psychosis includes making us behave like a victim - or are we just asking do you feel like a victim. I apologise if I have mis answered this question. I think I have tried to cover all bases.
I am new member I felt the same with my dad.but later on as time went on I forgave my dad and he also did the same to me.what I mean to say is our relationship has improved.when ur new this disease this sort of things tend to happen.most of it(SZ) I came out of due to accepting that my father is a human.From childhood he was an icon to me. |
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| hercules21
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Posted - 09/04/2009 : 20:10:06
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Hi Saru,
Things are good with my Dad these days. That one comment must have cut me to the quick as he said it some years ago and has been very supportive since.
Re-reading this post I am happy to report that I feel less victimized now that I have had more time to cope with my relapse and my diagnosis with sz. But I still identify with some of those feelings I wrote about back then perhaps just not as intensely.
Welcome to this web site. Your comments are very insightful. Look forward to reading future posts by you.
Hercules.
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| warbird
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